Comments on: Green Threading, Psuedo Threads, or AIR as a server? http://blog.everythingflex.com/2009/01/19/green-threading-psuedo-threads-or-air-as-a-server/ News and Information about Adobe Flex & Adobe AIR by Rich Tretola Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:30:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Rich Tretola http://blog.everythingflex.com/2009/01/19/green-threading-psuedo-threads-or-air-as-a-server/comment-page-1/#comment-39347 Rich Tretola Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:44 +0000 http://blog.everythingflex.com/?p=850#comment-39347 Yes, Merapi would be a possible solution and I have worked with Merapi in the past. Unfortunately, you can not start Merapi from an AIR application. Yes, Merapi would be a possible solution and I have worked with Merapi in the past. Unfortunately, you can not start Merapi from an AIR application.

]]> By: todd http://blog.everythingflex.com/2009/01/19/green-threading-psuedo-threads-or-air-as-a-server/comment-page-1/#comment-39338 todd Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:59:25 +0000 http://blog.everythingflex.com/?p=850#comment-39338 I should add that I had a client build their own AIR-like functionality for an application that only ran on Windows. They embedded IE in a .NET application and ran all their application modules, which were SWF files that communicated with an embedded Python webserver for communicating to the file system. It's similar to what Merapi does, but this pre-dates AIR by a couple of years. I'm thinking for a software development house wanting to leverage the beauty of Flex or UI screens, but building high-level custom apps might be able to cobble up something like this without much difficulty. You don't get the all the AIR, but you most likely don't need all the AIR APIs, and you get better control of the install. The only thing I haven't looked into is on OS X what would be required to embed WebKit in a native OSX runtime. The lightweight Python server should be able to be mostly cross-platform. Again, I'd stress this is for a software development house willing and who has the technical knowledge to pull this off, as opposed to a standard Web 2.0 company that wants to build a useful AIR application in the matter of a few weeks to integrate into existing services. (Writing about this is on a list of things I'm supposed to do in the next 6 months.) Anyway, I'll be anxiously watching your experiments as I'm always looking for new ways to push the platform. I should add that I had a client build their own AIR-like functionality for an application that only ran on Windows. They embedded IE in a .NET application and ran all their application modules, which were SWF files that communicated with an embedded Python webserver for communicating to the file system. It’s similar to what Merapi does, but this pre-dates AIR by a couple of years.

I’m thinking for a software development house wanting to leverage the beauty of Flex or UI screens, but building high-level custom apps might be able to cobble up something like this without much difficulty. You don’t get the all the AIR, but you most likely don’t need all the AIR APIs, and you get better control of the install. The only thing I haven’t looked into is on OS X what would be required to embed WebKit in a native OSX runtime. The lightweight Python server should be able to be mostly cross-platform.

Again, I’d stress this is for a software development house willing and who has the technical knowledge to pull this off, as opposed to a standard Web 2.0 company that wants to build a useful AIR application in the matter of a few weeks to integrate into existing services.

(Writing about this is on a list of things I’m supposed to do in the next 6 months.)

Anyway, I’ll be anxiously watching your experiments as I’m always looking for new ways to push the platform.

]]> By: todd http://blog.everythingflex.com/2009/01/19/green-threading-psuedo-threads-or-air-as-a-server/comment-page-1/#comment-39336 todd Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:44:24 +0000 http://blog.everythingflex.com/?p=850#comment-39336 That's a lot of effort to get around a pretty big issue with AIR that separates it from real desktop toolkits. Hopefully we'll see something to address this in the future because AIR still has the advantage of building beautiful apps that the other toolkits lack. In AIR, I went through great lengths to scan a directory of images, recrop them, apply some image mask styling, etc...While I eventually got it working OK through event-chaining, the code was way more cumbersome than working with either .NET Callback threading or Java threading environments. Would Merapi be able to facilitate your use-case (I heard a rumor they're supporting callbacks/responders now), or are you just doing something experimental to show another way of working around it? That’s a lot of effort to get around a pretty big issue with AIR that separates it from real desktop toolkits. Hopefully we’ll see something to address this in the future because AIR still has the advantage of building beautiful apps that the other toolkits lack.

In AIR, I went through great lengths to scan a directory of images, recrop them, apply some image mask styling, etc…While I eventually got it working OK through event-chaining, the code was way more cumbersome than working with either .NET Callback threading or Java threading environments.

Would Merapi be able to facilitate your use-case (I heard a rumor they’re supporting callbacks/responders now), or are you just doing something experimental to show another way of working around it?

]]> By: Douglas Knudsen http://blog.everythingflex.com/2009/01/19/green-threading-psuedo-threads-or-air-as-a-server/comment-page-1/#comment-39023 Douglas Knudsen Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:43:05 +0000 http://blog.everythingflex.com/?p=850#comment-39023 This the topic? http://360flex.uservoice.com/pages/general/suggestions/104726-building-an-air-video-recording-spy-camera-with-motion-detec I've voted for this, quite interested in your outcome on this as I'm working with a application that has some heavy computations running for a moment and the UI gets the "Not Responding" message. Using the psuedo threading at the moment. peas DK This the topic? http://360flex.uservoice.com/pages/general/suggestions/104726-building-an-air-video-recording-spy-camera-with-motion-detec I’ve voted for this, quite interested in your outcome on this as I’m working with a application that has some heavy computations running for a moment and the UI gets the “Not Responding” message. Using the psuedo threading at the moment.

peas

DK

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